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On Saturday, April 11, Sister Barbara Fiand, SNDeN, Ph.D., presents a day of thoughtful enrichment entitled "Spirituality and the New Science." The gathering will be at Fischer's Restaurant in Belleville, from 9:00 to 2:30. Lunch is included. Register using the form at this link.

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Day with Barbara Fiand, April 11, 2015

Barbara has written: "All human longing for the Ultimate is rooted in the context of the time in which it arises. It formulates its vision out of the language and symbols of its age in order to present a time-relevant approach to that which, in spite of all our striving, nevertheless and at all times remains Holy Mystery. We will look at spirituality through the context of our time, consider the increasingly important connection between science and spiritual transformation, reflect on the expansion of consciousness that is being opened up for us, and use this new vision as a way to dialogue, to explore, to take back ownership of our personal God-quest, and to find food for thge journey in each other and in God."

Barbara Fiand, a Sister of Notre Dame de Namur, teaches and gives lectures/retreats throught the country and abroad on issues related to holistic spirituality, prayer, transformation of consciousness and quantum spirituality. She is the author of In the Stillness You Will Know and Where Two or Three Are Gathered.


Stones Cry Out, the FOSIL newsletter, published

See the Winter, 2015, issue at the dark red link on the right top of this page.


Church Chat column returns; new Roger Scripture commentaries posted

Tom Smith has resumed writing his popular Church Chat essays. Click on the link in the red bar, above. One essay describes the new book and new website collecting Tom's Chat articles; another give his ideas on "big umbrella" Catholicism.

Roger Karban has been giving us several more of his Sunday-by-Sunday columns on the Scriptures; we post them as fast as we can. Click on the link in the red bar, above. Roger's beloved columns appear in diocesan newspapers, in the National Catholic Reporter, and in NCR's sister publication, Celebration.


Local Scripture Study Group Takes the Other Survey

Lester C. Himstedt
631 Ember Crest Drive
Fairview Heights, IL 62208


December 16, 2013


Rev. Monsignor Brian Bransfield
Associate General Secretary
3339 Massachusetts Ave. N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20008-3678

Bishop Edward K. Braxton
Diocese of Belleville
222 South Third St.

Archbishop Lorenzo Baldisseri
Via della Conciliazione
Vatican City

Rev. Mr. George Mills, Jr.
Corpus Christi Parish Office
206 Rasp St.
Shiloh, IL 62269


We are a small community of faithful Catholics who gather regularly to study the Scriptures and pray together. We feel it important to participate in Pope Francis' request for comment on questions raised in preparation for the 2014 Synod on the Family.

We also respond because of Evangelii Guadium, which calls for collaborative leadership, saying bishops and pastors must pursue pastoral dialogue, “out of a desire to listen to everyone and not simply to those who would tell him what he would like to hear.” We are grateful for Pope Francis' request for comments on the all-important issue of Family, and offer our thoughtful and prayerful response in a survey found on the following pages, hopeful that it reflects the sensus fidelium of the faithful in the Church of Southern Illinois.

As many of our responses indicate, we feel the need to become a more forgiving Church community, rather than an organization promoting “rules” for families that conflict with today's Catholic family culture. We note simply that Pope Francis has criticized “veritable witch hunts,” asking rhetorically, “whom are we going to evangelize if this is the way we act.”

The Apostolic Church was open to change as witnessed in the New Testament; why shouldn't today's Church be open, too? We hope and pray that you find our effort helpful.

The survey responses that follow were developed with the assistance and/or approval of the following individuals:

Ralph DiTucci Diane DiTucci Judy Meier Mary Willborn
Bobbi Peduzzi Roger Karban Rick Edwards Mary Molitor
Helen Martin Thomas Molitor Vern Boeckmann Vern Moehrs
Lucy Moehrs Jeff Greenstreet Carol Leary Karen Greenstreet
Mary Ann Himstedt Vincent Harter Cindy Hoef CindyO'Flaherty
Jerry Montroy Tee Schneider Lloyd Schneider Billy Sills
Vicki Doestl Sharon Sauthoff Ed Barbier Anne Harter
Stephen Sauthoff Les Himstedt Theresa Barbier  

Lester C. Himstedt
Contact Person

Faithful Catholics of Southern Illinois
December, 2013

  1. The Diffusion of the Teaching on the Family In Sacred Scripture and the Church's Magisterium

    1. Describe how the Catholic Church's teaching on the values of the family contained in the Bible, Gaudium et Spes, Familiaris Consortio and other documents of the post conciliar Magisterium is understood by people today?

      There's a real dichotomy between hierarchical preaching (Magisterium) and the lives of married couples (Families), easily confirmed by the latter simply ignoring Humani Vitae or, even worse, their mass exodus because of this teaching. Catholics continue to hear much against birth control and same sex relations but very little on how to foster family life. Catholic theology ignores societal changes over the centuries, e.g., the need for many offspring to help support families vs. the high cost of raising children today.

    2. In those cases where the Church's teaching is accepted fully are there difficulties in putting it into practice. If so, what are they?

      The hierarchy must recognize and accept the lived experience of couples which is so different from the clerical culture. Educated Catholics, especially those formed by Scripture, are more prepared to follow their conscience. They recognize that the Magisterium has moved from procreation as the primary goal of marriage to now include mutual support as an equal goal. The Church must recognize development in the realms of culture, medicine and society.

    3. How widespread is the Church's teaching in pastoral programs at the national, diocesan and parish levels? What catechesis is done on the family?

      Catholic catechesis, including homilies, usually addresses “adult” morality and children's sacramental preparation separately. In addition, the Magisterium uses obtuse language to preach rather than speaking to the heart of families. While small parish communities are being closed family catechesis becomes even more rare in large parishes. Nor are there national or diocesan programs available. Large evangelical and Mormon churches, which have strong lay involvement, seem to promote family so much better than ours. Some parish practices that promote families include such things as requiring parents to be involved in their children's formation programs, or having small groups of couples gathering to share their family experiences.

    4. To what extent---and what aspects in particular---is this teaching actually known, accepted, rejected and/or criticized in areas outside the Church? What are the cultural factors which hinder the full reception of the Church's teaching on the family?

      Immigrants found their faith and family culture protected by their own parish priest. Today local culture has replaced church influence on Catholics because it is no longer the core of their educational or social life. The church's autocratic, monarchical style, rooted in clericalism, limits church influence in today's democratic and conscience-formed cultures.

  2. Marriage According to Natural Law

    1. What place does the idea of natural law have in the cultural areas of society: in institutions, education, academic circles and among the people at large? What anthropological ideas underlie the discussion on the natural basis of the family?

      People today are heavily influenced by modern scientific knowledge of human biology, reproduction, sexuality and psychology. They are not swayed by a theology based on ancient, outdated Aristotelian philosophy.

    2. Is the idea of the natural law in the union between a man and a woman commonly accepted as such by the baptized in general?

      No. American Catholics by and large favor equality of all peoples based on the current understanding of natural law. This certainly includes equal rights for all, including marriage for gays and lesbians, who are not seen as so-called “disordered”.

    3. How is the theory and practice of natural law in the union between man and woman challenged in light of the formation of a family? How is it proposed and developed in civil and Church institutions?

      American Catholics realize the fact that individuals who divorce and usually remarry may be unfortunate, but such decisions are for the most part not made lightly. The fact is that the failure of a love relationship is usually a very difficult experience. As a forgiving Church, Catholic communities everywhere must continue sacramental ministry to them; doing otherwise is a theological travesty.

      Scripture documents early Christian struggle with this issue (Mt. 5:32; 19:9; 1 Corinthians 7:12-15). However, canonical practice of marriage nullification today is almost universally derided as dishonest. Perhaps we should look to the practices of other communities for direction.

    4. In cases where non-practicing Catholics or declared non-believers request the celebration of marriage, describe how this pastoral challenge is dealt with.

      Most diocesan policies deny sacramental marriage to such individuals. Some few pastors treat them with respect and even address the opportunity of a marriage in the internal forum or recommend acquaintances who will provide a religious ceremony.

      Catholics who simply do not wish to be married in a Catholic ceremony in a church setting is the more serious issue. It is important for the Synod on the Family to address this issue.

  3. The Pastoral Care of the Family in Evangelization

    1. What experiences have emerged in recent decades regarding marriage preparation? What efforts are there to stimulate the task of evangelization of the couple and of the family? How can an awareness of the family as the “domestic church” be promoted?

      Pre-marital preparation is now universally required in American dioceses, but pastoral practice depends entirely on how well the local pastor and his associates provides this catechesis. Unfortunately, these one-time assessments focus more on compatibility rather than family values. Programs such as Cana and couples retreats are helpful resources, but the Church lacks both a solid theology or educational program to promote modern family life.

      Liturgies have become more stilted and clergy-focused by recent changes mandated by the Vatican which limits a focus on family celebrations needed as an integral part of evangelization.

    2. How successful have you been in proposing a manner of praying within the family which can withstand life's complexities and today's culture?

      Formation of small faith communities, usually a lay initiative, sometime offers families an opportunity to pray as family. Sacramental preparation, where parents are encouraged to participate, often provides an opportunity to focus on family prayer.

    3. In the current generational crisis, how have Christian families been able to fulfill their vocation of transmitting the faith?

      Catholic parents simply try to lead lives with values their children can emulate, but their example is too often offset by rigid church doctrine and practice, such as that regarding gays and remarriage. The younger generation is fleeing the Church in record numbers because they hear, but do not see, the Christ that is preached.

    4. In what way have the local churches and movements on family spirituality been able to create ways of acting which are exemplary?

      While there are so many new organizations that the Vatican has touted as available for lay ministry (Communion & Liberation, Legionnaires of Christ, Opus Dei)), none of them address “family” as such. Aside from celebration of the annual Holy Family feast, the Church offers nothing.

    5. What specific contribution can couples and families make to spreading a credible and holistic idea of the couple and Christian family today?

      The Old Testament shows that Jewish celebrations were originally begun to express gratefulness for their various harvests. Since celebration of the official Holy Days has fallen by the wayside the Church should consider utilizing national holidays as special days of family prayer and celebration such as Thanksgiving, Veterans Day and Independence Day. These would provide better opportunities for families to gather and celebrate national values within a family setting.

    6. What pastoral care has the Church provided in supporting couples in formation and couples in crisis situations?

      Programs such as Cana and couples retreats are helpful resources, but the Church lacks both a solid theology or educational program to promote modern family life.

      Liturgies have become more stilted and clergy-focused by recent changes mandated by the Vatican which limits a focus on family celebrations needed as an integral part of evangelization. Formation of small faith communities, usually a lay initiative, sometime offers families an opportunity to pray as family;. Sacramental preparation, when parents are encouraged to participate, often provides an opportunity to focus on family prayer.

      Families today usually use professional, social & medical resources provided by both religious and civil organizations in times of family crisis. While pastors do offer some family and crisis counseling, today they are most often referral agents.

  4. Pastoral Care in Certain Difficult Marital Situations

    1. Is cohabitation ad experimentum, a pastoral reality in your particular Church? Can you approximate a percentage?

      A majority of couples cohabitate prior to marriage today. This is accepted culturally, with Catholics no different than anyone else. There are various reasons for cohabitation, e.g., financial dependence and incomplete education, but moral values rarely enter into the arrangement.

      The “beginning” of marriage has always varied among cultures, which suggests that morality of cohabitation is always a work in process. Culture, rather than church catechesis, greatly influences when a marriage begins.

    2. Do unions which are not recognized either religiously or civilly exist? Are reliable statistics available.

      Common law marriages are recognized in most states but regulations vary state by state, and same sex unions are gaining legal acceptance as either as civil unions or marriage.

      Such statistics are possibly available through census data which could be available to the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB).

    3. Are separated couples and those divorced and remarried a pastoral reality in your particular Church? Can you approximate a percentage? How do you deal with this situation in appropriate pastoral programmes?

      Yes they are, but such statistics would be difficult to ascertain. Divorce & remarriage carries little stigma in American culture. Denial of sacraments simply drives people away from any church practice.

      Until the 5th century the Church recognized marriage as practiced by local custom. Perhaps such recognition, rather than the current canonical requirements, would help Catholics practice an authentic married life with a subsequent sacramental blessing reserved as a special milestone in their marriage.

      Because of canonical restrictions pastors find these situations extremely difficult to resolve, especially when such couples attempt to be practicing Catholics. In some instances where pastoral care determines that the parties involved have acted in good conscience, the pastor counsels them in the internal forum.

    4. In all the above cases, how do the baptized live in this irregular situation? Are they aware of it? Are they simply indifferent? Do they feel marginalized or suffer from the impossibility of receiving the sacraments?

      Unfortunately, the Church presumes guilt by those living in a so-called irregular situation. Catholics are aware of Church doctrine, and yes they feel extremely marginalized. While pastoral care varies significantly, some pastors are welcoming and through the Rite of Christian Initiation and canonical nullification of a previous marriage welcome them back into full communion.

      Other injured parties, though, are too often simply ignored and eventually leave the Church. Sensitive pastoral ministry can often alleviate pain for the parties, especially in light of Pope Francis' recent comment in another setting: “Who am I to judge”.

    5. What questions do divorced and remarried people pose to the Church concerning the Sacraments of the Eucharist and Reconciliation? Among those persons who find themselves in these situations, how many ask for these sacraments?

      Too many innocent parties simply suffer in silence, accepting their presumed excommunication. Sensitive pastoral ministry to alleviate pain for the parties is critical.

      Scripture documents early Christian struggle with this issue (Mt. 5:32; 19:9; 1 Corinthians 7:12-15). We must also seek a reasonable resolution today since canonical practice of marriage nullification is almost universally derided as dishonest. Perhaps we should look to the practices of other communities for direction.

    6. Could a simplification of canonical practice in recognizing a declaration of nullity of the marriage bond provide a positive contribution to solving the problems of the persons involved? If yes, what form would it take?

      YES! Use of professional counselors rather than canonists would make the process more positive, and begin the process of nullification with the presumption that the petitioner is an innocent victim. The Church should develop a pastoral approach to examine the petitioner by assessing whether or not they are acting from a good, well-formed conscience. This process should be pastoral and positive vs. canonical and accusatory.

      American clergy working in marriage tribunals in the 1970s petitioned the Vatican to reconsider and simplify canonical regulations and replace with a more pastoral approach. The 2014 Synod needs to address the issue.

    7. Does a ministry exist to attend to these cases? Describe this pastoral ministry? Do such programmes exist on the national and diocesan levels? How is God's mercy proclaimed to separated couples and those divorced and remarried and how does the Church put into practice her support for them in their journey of faith?

      Not a pastoral ministry! The Church needs to develop an approach dedicated to improve pastoral support of divorced Catholics, one which provides counseling and faith formation. It should begin the process of nullification with the presumption that the petitioner is an innocent victim . Catholics in this situation deserve a pastoral approach which examines whether or not they are acting from a good, well-formed conscience. This process should be pastoral and positive vs. canonical and accusatory with the recognition that Catholics have little understanding of the practice of canonical nullification.

      Catholics need access to sacraments whatever their marriage status, for sacraments are intended to nurture and develop our faith. Simplification of the nullity process would be helpful, but would not totally resolve the issue.

  5. On Unions of Persons of the Same Sex

    1. Is there a law in your country recognizing civil unions for people of the same-sex and equating it in some way to marriage?

      Yes, and 18 individual states in the U.S. have enacted laws to recognize civil unions and/or marriage among same-sex couples. 60% of Americans, including Catholics, approve such unions. We are pleased that our State of Illinois is one of them.

    2. What is the attitude of the local and particular Churches toward both the State as the promoter of civil unions between persons of the same sex and the people involved in this type of union?

      The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) has been very forceful in attacking legislation allowing such unions. Such efforts are considered a homophobic screed and a waste of critical resources by a majority of American Catholics.

      Scriptural texts and the current understanding of human nature seem to accept natural tendencies in all of its variations. Those whom nature has created as “gay” or “lesbian” suffer needlessly from official church teaching. They and their families are unnecessarily driven away from the church by this teaching. Parents of gays and lesbians are especially hurt by such teaching.

    3. What pastoral attention can be given to people who have chosen to live in these types of union?

      Officially the US hierarchy decrys such unions. But the question, which states “have chosen to live” presumes that gays and lesbians “choose” their lifestyle rather than being born into it. We note that the early version of the Catholic Catechism stated that no one chooses their sexuality. This is the question that needs to be addressed by the Church, as science and society have already done.

    4. In the case of unions of persons of the same sex who have adopted children, what can be done pastorally in light of transmitting the faith?

      At minimum, they should be treated the same as those couples who are living without benefit of a sacramental marriage. This presupposes that they are treated with real pastoral love and concern.

  6. The Education of Children in Irregular Marriages

    1. What is the estimated proportion of children and adolescents in these cases, as regards children who are born and raised in regularly constituted families?

      There is a growing percentage of Catholic families that now must live apart from the sacramental life of the Church, namely, those in some proscribed, so-called irregular marriage. Pastoral care demands that the magisterium search for some pastoral vs. canonical way to bring them to full Catholic practice. Only then will their children be attracted to the same life-giving faith.

    2. How do parents in these situations approach the Church? What do they ask? Do they request the sacraments only or do they also want catechesis and the general teaching of religion?

      They fall into two (2) categories: Those who simply disassociate themselves from the Church, and those who continue to seek acceptance of sacramental practice for their offspring. What they really ask for is a redefinition of the teaching of the Church, especially of the catechesis that finds them unfaithful, or worse, “disordered”.

    3. How do the particular churches attempt to meet the needs of the parents of these children to provide them with a Christian education?

      There is very little outreach to these children, simply because their parents are considered outcasts. That is the unspoken attitude of the mainstream hierarchy.

      The very term “irregular marriage” sends a negative message & alienates these families from active church life. When parents do seek church formation for their children they are often accepted only as 2nd class citizens.

    4. What is the sacramental practice in these cases: preparation, administration of the sacrament and the accompaniment?

      For the most part these children as considered 2nd class citizens, as are their parents. It takes courage for a pastor to publicly accept and mainstream parents and children.

  7. The Openness of the Married Couple to Life

    1. What knowledge do Christians have today of the teachings of Humanae vitae on responsible parenthood? Are they aware of how morally to evaluate the different methods of family planning? Could any insights be suggested in this regard pastorally?

      Contraception for Catholics is simply a non-issue, no matter how much or how often hierarchy and pastors reference humanae Vitae or the magisterium. They find such instruction intrusive in the most personal aspect of their lives and consider this a matter of their own conscience.

      They mostly consider natural family planning an inconvenient an ineffective form of birth control. The laity apparently spoke as part of Paul VI's previous consultation, and when their advice was ignored Catholics in general simply ignored his encyclical on birth control. They continue to hope that the American hierarchy would address this issue head-on rather than approval of birth control by silence.

    2. Is this moral teaching accepted? What aspects pose the most difficulties in a large majority of couple's accepting this teaching?

      As indicated previously, birth control is no longer an issue among Catholics, and is simply not discussed by the clergy.

    3. What natural methods are promoted by the particular Churches to help spouses put into practice the teachings of Humanae Vitae?

      Dioceses occasionally promote a workshop, usually focused on family planning, but there is little interest shown by laity.

    4. What is your experience on this subject in the practice of the Sacrament of Penance and participation at the Eucharist?

      Confessors readily admit that this issue seldom comes up in the confessional. Lay Catholic practice also indicates that birth control prohibitions are simply ignored.

    5. What differences are seen in this regard between the Church's and civic education?

      Rules requiring separation of church and state in the U.S. prohibit discussion of moral values on this issue, so there is no comparison.

    6. How can a more open attitude towards having children be fostered? How can an increase in births be promoted?

      Pope Francis' recent call for financial equality among all people in Evangelii Gaudium really speaks to this issue. It would also be helpful if Catholic faithful be allowed a place at the hierarchical table to address the complexity and difficulties of raising families in today's environment.

  8. The Relationship Between the Family & The Person

    1. Jesus Christ reveals the mystery and vocation of the human person. How can the family be a privileged place for this to happen?

      This would require a dramatic change in attitude and practice within the hierarchy, who are inclined to view their special vocation as “all-knowing” teachers rather than as pastors seeking to allow the laity a voice at the table. Voiceless people always tend to feel like outcasts, as they truly are.

    2. What critical situations in the family today can obstruct a person's encounter with Christ?

      Loss of a job, prolonged and unresolved illness, divorce, death of a child, the list is endless and each one can potentially obstruct a person's encounter with Christ, unless the care of others wraps them in a comforting embrace. Church regulation and practice today have become a major obstruction to a person's encounter with the true Christ.

    3. To what extent do the many crisis of faith which people can experience affect family life?

      So many parents today see their children leaving the Church, and they are saddened for their loss. They often understand that Church doctrine and practice, which at times is so restrictive and unjust, especially to women, is the cause of this loss.

      The parents themselves too often struggle as a result of these same inequities in Church structure.

  9. Other Challenges and Proposals

    1. What other challenges or proposals related to the topics in the above questions do you consider urgent and useful to treat?

      Lay people, and especially lay & religious women, are the heart and soul of our church and need to be included more fully in the leadership of the church. Today's hierarchy, including local pastors, function within a clerical culture which is too privileged, self-serving and unaccountable for their actions.

      Church ministry, including sacramental ministry, has evolved significantly over the centuries. It seems unchristian to a majority of Catholics today to limit access to Catholic sacraments because of a celibate, male mandate unlike that of the early, apostolic practice.




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